Showing posts with label Rafael Palmeiro. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Rafael Palmeiro. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 28, 2010

Rafael Palmeiro's Case for the Hall

Ahead of next week's Hall of Fame election announcements, I wanted to take a closer look at the candidacy of former Oriole first baseman, Rafael Palmeiro.

When Palmeiro retired, I thought he was a slam dunk and was surprised by those who thought he wasn't. 500 home runs and 3,000 hits? He was only one of four players to reach those milestones, milestones that by themselves have assured players of election to the Hall.

We know the traditional case for Palmeiro and we also know the traditional arguments against him. The first is his link to steroids, having failed a drug test in 2005. He also has been called an "accumulator", a guy who hung around long enough to rack up big numbers but never having elite seasons.

With that, I wanted to take a closer look at Palmeiro's offensive production (since that is what his case for the Hall is primarily based on) as compared to his peers in terms of OPS+ and in terms of WAR.

Here is a look at Palmeiro as he compares to his fellow first basemen. From the years 1986 - 2005, the seasons encompassing his 20-year career, the OPS+ rates of all players who played 1B for 75% of their career (that eliminates Frank Thomas and Jim Thome, although they would probably be considered first basemen by most fans...):

            OPS+
McGwire 162
Bagwell 149
Helton 148
Delgado 143
Clark 137
McGriff 134
Palmeiro 132
Vaughn 132
Olerud 128
Hrbek 128



That's a rather sobering comparison. OPS+ is a rough tool but it does show us a level of offensive prowess measured against your peers and the environment you played in. Here, Palmeiro comes in way behind the likes of McGwire, Bagwell, Helton and Delgado and even comes in behind Will Clark and Fred McGriff. If Frank Thomas and Jim Thome were included, he wouldn't be any better than the 8th or 9th best bat at his position for his generation.

Now, career WAR for these guys courtesy of BaseballProjection.com:

            WAR
Bagwell 79.9
Palmeiro 65.7
McGwire 63.1
Clark 57.4
Helton 57.3
Olerud 56.6
McGriff 50.5
Delgado 43.9
Hrbek 35.4
Vaughn 25.7


As a total player (WAR includes fielding), Palmeiro is rewarded a bit more. Of course, his longevity helps him too since WAR is essentially a counting stat. Do you penalize the player who is consistently valuable over the course of his career because his peak was not high enough? Personally, I don't think so but that's going to be the argument against Palmeiro.

But how does he stack up against other Hall of Fame first baseman? Career OPS+ for some Hall of Fame first baseman.

            OPS+
Gehrig 178
Brouthers 166
Foxx 163
Mize 158
Greenberg 158
Connor 152
McCovey 147
Terry 136
Chance 135
Anson 134
Cepeda 133
Murray 129
Beckley 125
Bottomley 124
Sisler 124


By this measure, Palmeiro would come in just ahead of Eddie Murray which is a bit ironic since the Murray model is the best case for Palmeiro's induction. Murray was also a steady guy, a player who never won an MVP but was consistently great over a long career. Murray vs. Palmeiro in terms of WAR by season, from highest to lowest:




Palmeiro wouldn't join the HoF elites here but he wouldn't be a bad choice in terms of bat alone.

Career WAR for these players and Palmeiro:

             WAR
Gehrig 118.3
Anson 99.2
Foxx 94.0
Connor 87.1
Brouthers 83.7
Mize 70.1
Murray 66.7
Palmeiro 65.7
McCovey 65.1
Beckley 61.4
Greenberg 56.9
Terry 55.3
Sisler 50.4
Chance 49.4
Cepeda 46.6
Bottomley 32.3


Again, WAR serves Palmeiro well, even amongst stiff competition. He is within a hair of Murray and ahead of Willie McCovey and Hank Greenberg.

Palmeiro does not embarrass himself in terms of WAR or OPS+ against Hall of Fame first basemen. Against his peers? He does not seem to be among the elite. But I'm not a guy who likes to penalize a player just because he was not considered the best of his generation at his position, especially when he is a part of a strong class. There are only 18 first basemen in the Hall of Fame. Among Palmeiro and his peers, there are 5 guys who will probably be elected (Thomas, Thome, McGwire, Bagwell and Palmeiro) and maybe another one could sneak in. (Likewise, there is no sense in rewarding a player for being the Best (Position) of His Generation when the competition was weak...)

But what about the factors beyond the numbers? What about PEDs? I don't care about PEDs and while that issue may concern the people who vote, it will only serve to delay his election, not to scuttle it. There are younger writers from more diverse backgrounds voting for the Hall of Fame every year now, people who understand that there are tools you can use to judge players beyond counting stats. The Steroid Era provides plenty of white noise to the argument but there are measures that help squelch it. PEDs won't be keeping steroid users out of the Hall 10 years from now.

How about the argument that he was never considered among the best in the game? Again, Palmeiro is part of a very strong offensive class of first basemen. While he doesn't have a great peak, he was consistently one of the better hitters in the league for almost 20 seasons. You can't just hang around and "accumulate" 3,020 hits and 569 home runs. 500 home runs doesn't mean what it once did but that's still an impressive number and 3,000 hits is nothing to sneeze at.

Is he the slam dunk I thought he was 5 years ago? No. There are some chinks in the armor when you look closely. But he compares favorably to other first basemen in the Hall of Fame and he's certainly not going to be an outlier in terms of value among them. Not only do I think he is deserving, he has history on his side. 3,000 hits and 500 home runs still means something and he would be the first with either of those totals alone to not be elected to the Hall of Fame, let alone the first with both those milestones. He's going to get in but it may take a few years (as he is overshadowed by stronger candidates) for the voters to recognize his greatness.

He's going in and he's deserving. I predict election in 2017.

Monday, August 16, 2010

Palmeiro Speaks About Steroids Again...Sticks By His Story

Drew Davison caught up with Rafael Palmeiro while he was watching his son play in a Texas Collegiate League game. Palmiero discussed steroids again and sticks by his original story; the B-12 shot he took was tainted.

Since the positive test, Palmeiro continues to maintain that he took a tainted shot of vitamin B12, which he felt gave him an energy boost. He said the supplement he took came from the Dominican Republic.
"It was an accidental, unintentional deal on my part, and I take full responsibility for that," said Palmeiro, who tested negative in subsequent tests that year. "I did not do the proper due diligence on it, and if I pay the price, I pay the price."
Now, I don't care that much about the whole steroid issue. It was rampant and you need to compare players against their peers. I don't care if Palmeiro did steroids for 20 years, he has a career OPS+ of 132 (wRC+ of 133), 569 home runs, 3,020 hits and he has 65.7 WAR which puts him in the top 100 of all-time and ahead of Mark McGwire, Gary Sheffield and Ryne Sandberg. Those are HOF numbers in my book and very nearly a slam dunk.
And you may not believe his story about the B-12 shot but consider this:
After his positive test, a congressional committee went back and conducted an investigation of Palmeiro, and found no evidence he had used illegal performance-enhancing drugs before that. Therefore, there was no proof Palmeiro had lied in front of Congress...
"I don't regret sitting in front of Congress because I told them the truth," Palmeiro said. "They did a thorough investigation and couldn't come up with anything or any other evidence. I told them the absolute truth."
This is hardly proof of innocence or proof that Palmeiro's positive test was due to a one-time event but it is a point in Palmeiro's favor.
Also, there's this quote from Palmeiro:
"I can tell you what I'd like to forget – the 3,000th hit," Palmeiro said. "I knew early on that it was a positive [test] and knew that, at some point, my career was going to get crushed. I was playing with that in my mind all season. It didn't matter what I'd done, even with 3,000 on the horizon....
"Usually, baseball celebrates something like that, it's almost like an achievement of baseball instead of an individual or team achievement," Palmeiro said. "But I can honestly tell you, that was as dark of a moment in my career as ever. I don't even like thinking back on that."
I include these quotes to frame a question: Why would a man who was so tortured by the impending release of the positive test that it renders his chase for 3,000 hits to a memory he'd like to forget keep standing by his story? 
There is still a list of names out there, a list of 104 names from 2003 that has caused other players a lot of heartburn. It would be hard to believe that Palmeiro's name is on that list if he is still standing by his original story and with his first Hall of Fame vote just a few months away.
So either Palmeiro is a pathological liar of Roger Clemens-like proportions or he has a bit more credibility than he did five years ago. I'm going with the latter.


Tuesday, June 1, 2010

Top Ten Yankee Killers - Oriole Hitters

Things look bleak as the O's head north to The Bronx. But I decided to look at some of the top Oriole "Yankee Killers" as a diversion from the present. We need some Yankee killers for this series.




10. Eddie Murray


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Murray .800 .269 .346 .454 25



I almost didn't include Steady Eddie since his .800 OPS vs. the Yanks is less than his career levels but he OPSed 1.363 vs Catfish Hunter so I guess he's legit.



9. Boog Powell


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Powell .833 .273 .364 .468 34



Boooooog! Boog hit more home runs against the Yankees than any other team during his fantastic career. Powell got to beat up on a bunch of lousy Yankee teams from the 60's and 70's but he still destroyed the likes of Mel Sottlemyre.



8. Miguel Tejada


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Tejada .841 .327 .378 .463 8



Miggy comes up large against the men in the pinstripes. Tejada hit especially well against David Wells and let's hope he continues against Javier Vasquez and company.



7. Gene Woodling


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Woodling .846 .301 .415 .431 7



Who is Gene Woodling? Woodling was a key player on 5 Yankee world championships but came to Baltimore in the twilight of his career at age 35. From 1958-1960, Woodling had a revival of sorts for the Orioles and wore out his former club.



6. Chris Hoiles


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Hoiles .848 .267 .378 .471 13



Hoiles destroyed Yankee pitching with 13 homers in just 78 career games and against Andy Pettite, David Cone and Sterling Hitchcock put up OPS's of .949, 1.008 and 1.083 respectively.



5. Nick Markakis


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Markakis .863 .311 .373 .490 11



If only Nick slugged this well against the rest of the league.





4. Bob Nieman


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Nieman .879 .309 .395 .484 9


Another late-1950's veteran outfielder. Nieman put up these numbers against some of the greatest Yankee teams of all time.




3. Frank Robinson


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Robinson .937 .333 .414 .523 13



Robinson crushed everybody so this is of little surprise to see that he poured it on against the bad New York teams of the late 60's.



2. Rafael Palmeiro


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Palmeiro .970 .310 .402 .567 20



The greatest free agent signing in Oriole history? Could be. Before his steroid troubles, Palmeiro was a fan favorite for good reason; he hit well and did it against the O's biggest rival of the 90's.




1. Curt Blefary


OPS AVG OBP SLG HR
Blefary .979 .300 .407 .571 12



A guy who only hit .239 and slugged .417 over the 4 years of his Oriole career hit .300 and sluigged .571 against the Yankees. He truly deserves the title of Top Yankee Killer.


Honorable Mentions: John Lowenstein, Kevin Millar, Ramon Hernandez, Harold Baines, Roberto Alomar, Randy Milligan, Leo Gomez, Brian Roberts, Andy Etchebarren, Benny Ayala

Wednesday, November 19, 2008

BHI: Palmiero, Dempsey and Surhoff

What's BHI? Look here...

Rafael Palmeiro - 223 Oriole Career Homers

Although the steroid scandal tends to overshadow his Oriole career, Rafael Palmeiro was signed in 1994 with Miguel Tejada-like hype and largely lived up to it during his Oriole career, at least the first stint. Less than 25% of his homers came during "garbage time" and less than 47% of his homers came with nobody on base. (The major league average is about 58%...) More than half his total home runs wither put the O's ahead or tied the game and there were 4 walk-offs. His BHI puts him on-par with the Oriole immortals.

BHI - 469

Rick Dempsey - 65 Oriole Career Homers

I almost hated to do this to the namesake of my blog. Even though Dempsey had a lot of big hits in the postseason, I didn't think he would acquit himself well in this survey of regular season home runs.

But he fares OK for a guy with only 65 career homers for Baltimore. Although he hit a ton of solo shots, very few came during "garbage time" (less than 25%) and nearly half of his homers were game tying or go ahead shots. The lack of walk-off homers renders him fairly average.

BHI - 136

B.J. Surhoff - 120 Oriole Career Homers

Shockingly, B.J. Surhoff is now the reigning Oriole king of the Garbage Homer.

Why? Just over 62% of his homers were solo shots and only 32% of his homers either tied the game and put Baltimore ahead. But the killer was that more than a third of all his homers came during "garbage time", mostly when the Orioles were either up or down by 4 runs or more.

I didn't even know this was possible but Surhoff gets a BHI that is negative.

BHI - -64

BHI Leaders - Oriole Career
Brooks Robinson - 495
Eddie Murray - 469
Rafael Palmeiro - 469
Larry Sheets - 266
Chris Hoiles - 240
Brian Roberts - 224
Cal Ripken - 197
Brady Anderson - 138
Rick Dempsey - 136
Jay Gibbons - 42
B.J. Surhoff - -64